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Post by The Gambler on Sept 29, 2014 19:33:22 GMT -5
But there totally was...
They got rid of the ruling council of 3 benders and replaced it with a democratically elects non-bender president.
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Sept 30, 2014 10:05:06 GMT -5
I'm definitely either getting a Messenger Hawk pre-game or a Wolf Spirit during the game.
Or a Gilacorn.
Nope, definitely a Gilacorn.
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 30, 2014 11:50:58 GMT -5
Wolfbat!
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Post by Nyessos Qhaedar on Sept 30, 2014 11:57:07 GMT -5
I call dibs on the mighty Elephant Rat!
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Sept 30, 2014 23:41:28 GMT -5
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Oct 1, 2014 10:18:34 GMT -5
NOOOO, I forgot about those. Anything involving wolves is miiiiine. D:
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 1, 2014 14:04:28 GMT -5
Too late!
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Oct 1, 2014 14:59:12 GMT -5
Dibs on a Badgermole then.
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Oct 1, 2014 15:32:28 GMT -5
So about that site link...
:'D
Edit: Or atleast the character creation stuff so I can fangirl a little harder about my planned character.
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Oct 1, 2014 16:00:27 GMT -5
Changed my mind. I'll call her Lucky, since she keeps me safe.
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 1, 2014 16:29:01 GMT -5
That'll look good on fire.
Speaking of, what's the current breakdown? Who is going with which element?
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Oct 1, 2014 16:45:28 GMT -5
Everyone's going with earthbending or some variant and then Bro is going to splash around with his polar bear dog.
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Oct 1, 2014 17:08:11 GMT -5
Things I have noticed.
1. LOK does everything in its power to avoid having firebending villains. Obviously, after 61 episodes of TLA, we'd seen enough of those. P'li is pretty well-adjusted, and not even the leader. 2. All waterbender leaders have been baddies, and especially insidious ones at that. Tarlokk, Noatak, and Unalaq are the most duplicitous characters thus introduced. 3. Like Change and Balance, the first two books are polar opposites. One focuses on modernizing the Avatarverse, the other deals with its past. Industry versus spirtualism. 4. Incidentally, Air is the element of change, as Tenzin explains early on, so the first season's title's not as misleading as some complain. In fact all the books have this sort of element theme duality. Water also dealt with spirits heavily, Earth dealt with order and stability, Fire dealt a lot with the ambitious and brutal nature of humanity. (I'm a little sad LOK never dedicates a season to this theme, though really it crops up throughout the series.) The rest go Air=Change, Spirits=Water, Change=Air, Balance=Earth. 5. At the rate technology is progressing, the next Avatar might be the First Moonbender. Maybe Radioationbending will be a thing. (And you thought bloodbending was evil!) 6. Noone ever actually gets burned in this show except offscreen. Or recieves concussions from having rocks thrown at their head. Or gets pneumonia from being splashed with water. 7. So far, only two families have last names, the Beifongs and the Satos. Ever wonder what Zuko's family name is? 8. Guns. I can actually understand this one, considering we already have human flanethrowers, but it seems the Equalists would have them BEFORE bombers and mecha tanks. 9. Sex. Not what you think. I'm wondering why there aren't more crossbender families. 10. Still a little confused... Is the United Republic a fifth nation altogether, or some conglomerate of the other four a la United Nations? If it's a nation, why did we need TWO water tribe reps and only ONE Earth kingdom rep and Fire Nation rep each, when the land would logically be dominated by firebenders and earthbenders. Also, the water tribe is according to Book 2 a single group politically, so again, there should only be one rep, otherwise you're giving an unfair voting bloc. If it IS a U.N. scenario, which would explain General Iroh running the military, then why aren't they consulting their actual leaders? What did Unalaq and Hou-Ting think about the Equalists? And in either scenario, how the hell does Tenzin get a vote? He's the only adult airbender on the planet, so who the hell does he represent? Does he get the spot just for being Aang's son? Are Tenzin and the United Republic really so corrupt?
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 1, 2014 17:30:21 GMT -5
I'm actually going fire now. Rewatching TLA reminded me of how much I love their culture. Forgot how cool the Agni Kai is! So I guess the only thing we're missing is air.
As with last time, I want to tackle all Orys points, but that would take way too long on my phone.
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Post by Morys Martell on Oct 1, 2014 17:35:11 GMT -5
Air sounds good. Airbending swordsman sounds ever better imo. Not sure why everyone's making characters now, when the whole thing won't kick off till later, when for all we know everything will get thrown up int he air again in terms of what benders can or cant do.
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 1, 2014 17:42:56 GMT -5
Brainstorming is fun.
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Post by Morys Martell on Oct 1, 2014 18:04:49 GMT -5
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Oct 1, 2014 18:25:49 GMT -5
Things I have noticed. 1. LOK does everything in its power to avoid having firebending villains. Obviously, after 61 episodes of TLA, we'd seen enough of those. P'li is pretty well-adjusted, and not even the leader. 2. All waterbender leaders have been baddies, and especially insidious ones at that. Tarlokk, Noatak, and Unalaq are the most duplicitous characters thus introduced. 3. Like Change and Balance, the first two books are polar opposites. One focuses on modernizing the Avatarverse, the other deals with its past. Industry versus spirtualism. 4. Incidentally, Air is the element of change, as Tenzin explains early on, so the first season's title's not as misleading as some complain. In fact all the books have this sort of element theme duality. Water also dealt with spirits heavily, Earth dealt with order and stability, Fire dealt a lot with the ambitious and brutal nature of humanity. (I'm a little sad LOK never dedicates a season to this theme, though really it crops up throughout the series.) The rest go Air=Change, Spirits=Water, Change=Air, Balance=Earth. 5. At the rate technology is progressing, the next Avatar might be the First Moonbender. Maybe Radiationbending will be a thing. (And you thought bloodbending was evil!) 6. Noone ever actually gets burned in this show except offscreen. Or recieves concussions from having rocks thrown at their head. Or gets pneumonia from being splashed with water. 7. So far, only two families have last names, the Beifongs and the Satos. Ever wonder what Zuko's family name is? 8. Guns. I can actually understand this one, considering we already have human flamethrowers, but it seems the Equalists would have them BEFORE bombers and mecha tanks. 9. Sex. Not what you think. I'm wondering why there aren't more crossbender families. 10. Still a little confused... Is the United Republic a fifth nation altogether, or some conglomerate of the other four a la United Nations? If it's a nation, why did we need TWO water tribe reps and only ONE Earth kingdom rep and Fire Nation rep each, when the land would logically be dominated by firebenders and earthbenders. Also, the water tribe is according to Book 2 a single group politically, so again, there should only be one rep, otherwise you're giving an unfair voting bloc. If it IS a U.N. scenario, which would explain General Iroh running the military, then why aren't they consulting their actual leaders? What did Unalaq and Hou-Ting think about the Equalists? And in either scenario, how the hell does Tenzin get a vote? He's the only adult airbender on the planet, so who the hell does he represent? Does he get the spot just for being Aang's son? Are Tenzin and the United Republic really so corrupt? *cracks knuckles* 1: It's something I can respect, but we also didn't have much in terms of Ozai during most of TLA, it was just Zuko and cohorts throughout most of the series. I wouldn't mind seeing a firebending villain pop up, but it's unlikely at this point. 2. Katara kind of counts as a leader these days, but you're right for the most part. Considering how isolated they are from everyone else, including each other, it's likely that it's intentional because of the different societal paths. The two water tribe members in the original United Republic of Nations were good, though. 3. I just don't want to skip a number. Carry on. 4. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. 5. I'm looking forward pretty eagerly to the other bending types that crop up. I've always been of the school of thought that mixed bending is not only prominent, but likely to anyone strong enough, and that through that we can see any combination of bending crop up. Lavabending = fire/earth mixture, and such. Maybe we could see lightbending. Invisibility? 6. Children's show, but that scene with the earth queen was pretty awesome. 7. Zuko Imustcapturetheavatar Scarface, the third. Last names are probably everywhere, but air nomads definitely wouldn't have any. 8. With the presence of metal bending and them fighting only benders, getting into any situation where handheld guns would be useful would still leave them at a pretty heavy disadvantage. Even then, under Amon, they were more interested in disabling than killing, and the bombers/tanks were mostly for show or unused. 9. This is the one I started this for. I think in terms of bending genetics-wise and heritage, it would be similar to dominant/recessive genes. It may also just be genetically impossible considering whatever spirity-geney-mumbo-gumbo goes on to make it happen. It may also just be that in the Avatarverse, benders aren't intended to congregate or socialize in any way, as we've seen so far everywhere except the Republic. 10. The United Republic technically is a fifth independent nation, and two water tribe reps were part of it for a pretty simple reason: two water tribes. The Northern and the Southern water tribe have different goals, and with their history against each other and the growing separation, trying to have one representative for both of their goals would have been a colossal waste of time, and Aang and Zuko would've known it. Tenzin gets a vote because whether or not he's got an air nation to represent, he still does portray the ideals of the air nation. He and Aang's entire goal outside of that was to rebuild the Air Nation, and it'd be far more effective for them to have a voice already in the council than to have to try and force their way into a potentially corrupt council as soon as it happens, leaving them with the likely possibility of never getting representation, and having to live the lifestyle of isolation that wiped them out in the first place.
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Oct 1, 2014 18:34:26 GMT -5
'9. Sex. Not what you think.'
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Post by Foo Foo Cuddly-poops on Oct 1, 2014 19:56:08 GMT -5
That'll look good on fire. I'm kind of okay with that...
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Oct 1, 2014 21:11:04 GMT -5
While Aranya was answering the wrong question, that question wasn't actually a bad question. Still, the UR Council idea bugs the crap out of me. I realize its a moot point since we have a President now, and yes, it WAS a corrupt and ineffective institution anyway, I just wonder what the writers were thinking having TWO water reps for a group of Fire Nation colonies in the earth kingdom. That's twice as much power to the smallest and most distant group. Realistically and ethically, Fire Nation and Earth Kingdom would control a much larger majority of the vote, especially when the South Water tribe barely existed anymore and the Air Nomads was one dude and some friends living on a tiny island. How do these few dozen guys get the same voting power as millions of citizens? How is that just? Also, Varryn, you forgot Zhao. And Azula. And all those soldiers. Somehow. Honestly, if we never see another firebending villain, I'll be happy. Then again, I want to know where the hell Azula is.
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Oct 2, 2014 19:35:42 GMT -5
Only a few more hours!
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Oct 3, 2014 0:11:33 GMT -5
"I am Zhao the Conqueror! I am the Moonslayer! I will capture the Avatar!"
Most random continuity reference ever. Also, Zhao must be a hundred years old.
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Oct 3, 2014 0:51:00 GMT -5
Sad thing is, he'll be there.. forever.
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Oct 3, 2014 1:12:49 GMT -5
I'm waiting for him to break out... but honestly, without his navy, he wouldn't be a threat. He wasn't even a serious firebending master.
Okay, watched the Book 2 finale and I have a few thoughts.
1. You totally see Wan and Unalaq die onscreen. No cutaways, you see the actual moment. 2. I still don;t understand where Korrazilla came from... She's never successfully meditated once and even Aang, who could do it, still needed training to reach the Inner Spirit Statue Thingie, And he did NOT move it arounfd like a giant mecha. 3. Jinora's spirit thingie used to bug me, but now I can see is she's just illuminating Raava for Korra to find. Though it's a still a bit of an asspull. 4. Varrick's motives elude me. Was he honestly trying to free his people, or just trying to make a buck? If he meant well, why'd he rob Asami and take over her company? 5. The Vaatu scene in Book 3 actually makes a lot more sense to me. It's not just a hallucination, since Vaatu has been absorbed back into Raava... so it might actually be Vaatu talking to her. 6. Also, do the Red Lotus not understand the idea of Harmonic Convergence or the phrase '10,000 years of darkness? If they had just opened the portals and killed the Avatar 13 years ago, they'd likely all be dead now. Though I suppose they thought Zaheer's group could fight him off like Wan did. And they'd (theoretically) have Unalaq's spirit powers on their side... but killing the Avatar seems a bit extreme either way.
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