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Post by The Gambler on Sept 21, 2014 21:47:21 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not sure exactly what you meant there Aranya. You'd level up the specialties separate from the bending. So a master bloodbender would be on an even playing field with a master fire bender. Though much like my recommendation with chi blocking, if the fire bender loses a roll by enough he should lose a few rounds of rolls to compensate for the blood bender having control of his body. Grandmaster might also be a bit high for the bloodbending requirement, as it can only be used during the full moon and we have no evidence Amon was an amazing water bender. I'd say competent would allow someone to take the skill as their specialty. It's also pretty situational as it only works during the full moon, though I guess legendary bloodbending should probably allow the ability Amon and his family have to do it at any time.
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 21, 2014 21:53:15 GMT -5
In fact all specialties should probably have their own special ability. For example:
Chi blocking-if you beat a bender's roll by over 35 they can't use their bending for a round.
Lightning bending-Beating an opponent's roll by over 60 results in instant death
Bloodbending-if you beat an opponent's roll by over 40 they lose a full round of rolling of any kind
Just a few examples. I'm sure we can come up with more for the rest.
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Post by Foo Foo Cuddly-poops on Sept 21, 2014 21:53:57 GMT -5
Can we revisit the decision that lists healing as a bending specialty? I know it's something special that water benders can do, but I really wouldn't consider it an alternative bending art that we see with blood/lava/lightning/metal/swamp vines. We could instead do the special technique that deals with pulling the water out of the plants/trees that are nearby
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 21, 2014 21:56:53 GMT -5
Hmmm yeah it seems like any water bender could heal. Though id say pulling water out of unconventional sources would be something any expert+ water bender could do. So maybe just cut healing altogether and leave water benders with blood bending and plant bending.
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Post by Foo Foo Cuddly-poops on Sept 21, 2014 22:29:38 GMT -5
I'm fine with that suggestion.
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 22, 2014 2:16:57 GMT -5
I actually enjoyed designing the Dragons fighting system so I'm happy to help. Just a matter of making each element and specialty feel unique without overcomplicating the rolling.
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Sept 22, 2014 11:33:09 GMT -5
Could've sworn someone mentioned soulbending... Anywho, I'm glad Korra finally as an archnemesis. Amon was a great villain, and Unalaq had a cool plan, but neither lasted past their season. I am curious though about whether or nor this Xai Bau fellow is still around, and who else is in the Red Lotus. I'm also not sure if we're supposed to assume Zaheer is the head honcho. Maybe it's Background White Lotus Member #3 from the very first episode.  |
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Sept 22, 2014 12:45:35 GMT -5
Big Bad? No. I'm pretty sure Kuvira's the one who breaks Zaheer out.
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 22, 2014 15:24:39 GMT -5
Well the most prevalent theory now is that Suyin is the big bad behind the scenes and that kuvira is her child with Zaheer. There's plenty of little hints but the best hard evidence is this: i.imgur.com/66eo0Vu.jpgThat's the picture in Suyin's office of her circus troupe. Keeping in mind that it'd be from like 20 years ago (plenty of time to lose limbs and wither away in jail), the circled folks look awfully familiar. They guy carrying her is a dead ringer for Zaheer. |
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Sept 22, 2014 15:53:43 GMT -5
Uhm... not sure I buy it. Why would Suyin's guards prevent Zaheer from kidnapping Korra? Why would she kill P'li? Why would she remove the venom from Korra? Why would she do everything in her power to prevent Zaheer from succeeding? Also, Zaheer is way shorter than that guy, and none of the others even resemble their supposed counterparts.  |
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 22, 2014 16:13:51 GMT -5
That guy looks identical to a young Zaheer to me. He even has the cauliflower ear. Take 20 years off everyone else and I can see it. The earth bending guy is wearing the same clothes, combustion lady has her hair covering her forehead, and give the water bending girl no arms and a decade in jai to wither away. I can see it. After all, look how different Suyin looks in the picture.
I guess we'll see with Suyin, but I thought it was suspicious when she sent Korra after Aiwei. Maybe it was all a long con to achieve something else. Having her trusted advisor turn bad is one thing, but her security chief as well? That makes me raise an eyebrow. She was pretty vehemently anti-monarchy as well.
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Sept 22, 2014 17:14:31 GMT -5
1. Zaheer is still much shorter and way less buff than that guy.
2. Ghazan wears very different clothes, and has wider shoulders. Also, I'm not seeing that 13-year-old's 'stache.
3. P'Li is MUCH taller and far less feminine. The facial features are also quite different.
4. Honestly, anyone with their arms chopped off and imprisoned for a decade would look like Ming-Hua.
Though... I gotta say, the Circus DOES seem like a good recruiting ground for people with such crazy abilities. Hmm...
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 22, 2014 20:49:29 GMT -5
Zaheer is the only one I feel is clearly him. The other ones COULD be but it doesn't really matter if they aren't since it has little bearing on the Suyin/Zaheer connection and Kuvira identity. You have to admit the facial resemblance is uncanny to the point it can't be a coincidence, the loss of muscle mass could be explained by over a decade in jail, and being an ex-circus performer perfectly explains his acrobatic ability. The height difference is the only part that has me stumped.
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Post by Foo Foo Cuddly-poops on Sept 22, 2014 23:28:49 GMT -5
I don't see a resemblance in any of them except perhaps the water chick and sparky sparky boom boom II. The supposed Zaheer kind of looks like him but I feel he is too big to be Zaheer and I don't think the picture is clear enough to see of he has the cauliflower ear as previously stated..
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Sept 23, 2014 12:25:31 GMT -5
All the episodes for Books 1-3 are now free on Nick.com.
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 23, 2014 13:13:18 GMT -5
Here's a zoomed in and cleared up picture. Same jaw, same nose, same ears, ect. Add 20-30 years and turn the smile to a frown and it's him: 31.media.tumblr.com/e14643cd1e2e144d537df0c8a07789ce/tumblr_n9f51gNs6y1rvud6oo1_500.pngKeep in mind we're talking decades of age and bitterness. I think Zaheer and sparky boom boom II are dead ringers. It just seems far too familiar to be a coincidence. This was a tiny picture in an episode that you got a brief glance at. As I said before, I think when 2 trusted advisors turn out to be red lotus, the person they work for has to be either stupid or in cahoots with them. Suyin doesn't strike me as stupid. |
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 23, 2014 13:19:58 GMT -5
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 23, 2014 15:31:00 GMT -5
I have no explanation for the height. Haha he wore stilts in the circus?
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 23, 2014 16:27:17 GMT -5
Haha that's funny because he's the only one I'm 90% sure about.
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Post by Foo Foo Cuddly-poops on Sept 23, 2014 17:02:02 GMT -5
I still haven't even watched the finale so I'm lost for the majority of this..
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Sept 24, 2014 2:03:35 GMT -5
Watching Book One: Air. It's so weird, I never noticed Amon is really just a performance by Noatak. Yeah, Noatak (probably) really believes in it, but he's such a showboat. Every scene with him is like Halloween all over again. The lighting, the wording, the choreography, the backstory and costume. No other villain acts like that. Even Unalaq, who actually was chosen by spirits to bring balance and had legitimate spiritual powers, never shows that level of theatricality. I just love the attention to detail.  |
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Sept 26, 2014 13:15:02 GMT -5
Character development is also stronger, I think. Of course, the show was only meant to last 12 episodes.
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Sept 26, 2014 15:14:26 GMT -5
Uh, I have to disagree. The character development in season 1 of Korra was so abysmal that it was the main reason why I didn't even watch seasons 2 and 3 until I decided to make an Avatar game. The "we only have one season, we have to squeeze everything in" is no excuse. I don't work in show business and even I know that if they had carefully built a good storyline JUST on Korra's spiritual journey towards airbending and stretched the Amon-Equalist plotline over 2 or 3 seasons, without the shit romances, they would've been picked up for another season. Actually even without that, there was so much interest generated by the time LoK season 1 started that the writers HAD to know the ratings would be high enough for Nick to pick up LoK for another season. The sad thing is that LoK is supposed to be more mature than A:TLA but the writing is less mature in all ways. It improved after season 1 a little bit, but that's not saying much. You were going to make an RP based on a show you hated?  Also, I'd be bored to tears if all they had Korra do was just meditate for 12 episodes, and not leave the city for 3 seasons. As for character development, I really don't know what the issue is. Aang and Katara had the same romantic issues, and that lasted 60 episodes while on the run from the Fire Nation. Also, it's Nickelodeon. Finally, the animation industry is brutal. Many great shows are cancelled in their prime. Their hesitation to stretch things out is very well justified. |
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Post by The Gambler on Sept 26, 2014 15:36:39 GMT -5
Finally, the animation industry is brutal. Many great shows are cancelled in their prime. Their hesitation to stretch things out is very well justified. Cough cough young justice cough cough On topic, I actually now like book 1 much more than I did. I tend to judge my stories off of the antagonists and I remember going from loving book 1 to hating it because Amon went from being one of the best villains ever to this pathetic fraud and massive letdown. I was furious he was a bender as I felt that cut everything that was awesome about him off at the knees and thought there were 1000 better directions they could have gone. Now I realize that was the point; that my disappointment mirrored that of those who believed in him and that the message was the dangerous and often contradictory story that propaganda sells. It's fascinating. If you look at the entire series as a critique of different political systems when taken to extremes (dictatorship, populism, religious extremism, and anarchism respectively) the show has some incredible depth for a "kids show". Hell it even offers commentary on the shortcomings of democracy with the Republic Kingdom president and Plutocracy/Oligarchy with the Earth Kingdom Queen. Political commentary wrapped in a cartoon. |
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Sept 26, 2014 16:03:47 GMT -5
Finally, the animation industry is brutal. Many great shows are cancelled in their prime. Their hesitation to stretch things out is very well justified. Cough cough young justice cough cough On topic, I actually now like book 1 much more than I did. I tend to judge my stories off of the antagonists and I remember going from loving book 1 to hating it because Amon went from being one of the best villains ever to this pathetic fraud and massive letdown. I was furious he was a bender as I felt that cut everything that was awesome about him off at the knees and thought there were 1000 better directions they could have gone. Now I realize that was the point; that my disappointment mirrored that of those who believed in him and that the message was the dangerous and often contradictory story that propaganda sells. It's fascinating. If you look at the entire series as a critique of different political systems when taken to extremes (dictatorship, populism, religious extremism, and anarchism respectively) the show has some incredible depth for a "kids show". Hell it even offers commentary on the shortcomings of democracy with the Republic Kingdom president and Plutocracy/Oligarchy with the Earth Kingdom Queen. Political commentary wrapped in a cartoon. Yeah, I was impressed they made me feel an emotional reaction to the Lieutenant's last scene. I remember the first time I saw the finale, I really hoped Korra was wrong and the scars were real until Amon actually bloodbended. Poor LT. Also, I think that MIGHT be the first onscreen death scene. |
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