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Post by Nyessos Qhaedar on Oct 30, 2014 18:43:37 GMT -5
Padon my ignorance... But can't we kill the NPC by the end of the first contract? I mean, tutorial is over, or something like that?
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 30, 2014 18:44:18 GMT -5
Dug up the sigil I made for Sam's Vale of Arryn game. It would work for a merc company if you guys like it, though making our own as a group might be more fun.
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 30, 2014 18:45:57 GMT -5
Jon is also right. I assume the starting NPC captain would be more like our training wheels.
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Post by Lord Lyonel Harroway on Oct 30, 2014 18:48:05 GMT -5
Well there is an advantage to having a company NPC.. if I pass the ball to Zack, and he has a great idea for a Stepstones campaign, and the new PC Captain rejects the contract.... well that sucks.
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 30, 2014 18:51:27 GMT -5
Haha that's actually not a bad point. Maybe we need a company rule not to reject any contracts. Someone has the coin, then we'll do the job. I mean I don't think any of us are dicks enough to do that to an admin.
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Post by Morys Martell on Oct 30, 2014 18:54:39 GMT -5
Padon my ignorance... But can't we kill the NPC by the end of the first contract? I mean, tutorial is over, or something like that? So like Duncan from Dragon Age?
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 30, 2014 19:02:00 GMT -5
Alright. I'm cool with time jumps if needed. I'm not a fan of the horse sigil either. It's not a good omen and I know Aranya would hate that if she found she had time to play.
How about crossed swords aflame or something.
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Post by Horas on Oct 30, 2014 19:22:11 GMT -5
[Horas] I kinda liked the idea of the Valyrian general on a campaign far from home
[Marie] i was reading comments on the NAB, apparently some evil people on amazon were purposely giving TWOIAF bad reviews
[Marie] yeah i like that too
[Horas] Maybe it goes disastrously, he bleeds men, has to hire on other foreigners to compensate
[Horas] and by the time they finally get back to Valyria
[Smith] Well I liked it too mostly cause it is mine.
[Horas] It's gone
[Marie] hmm
[Horas] So they have to set out and make ends meet
[Smith] Yeah... its all ash in his mouth
[Marie] that sort of reminds me of the roman writer who saw the chaos of pompeii
[Horas] It can't just be a straight up Valyrian army though, I think
[Marie] agreed
[Horas] It's important there's a mix, and they are starting a new thing
[Marie] there should be people from different cities
[Marie] and nations
[Marie] exiles from different lands
[Horas] The 6th Valyrian Legion died that day, the ___________ was born
[Horas] Something rising from the ashes
[Horas] A phoenix?
[Smith] Yeah were there other nationalities in Valyrian
[Marie] oh a phoenix would be good
[Marie] Born in Flame?
[Marie] well
[Smith] Yeah... do they know what a pheonix is in Essos?
[Marie] in the book it says that some of the free cities were already there before the valyrians got there and they bent the knee
[Marie] so they would be interbred and stuff
[Horas] We can fudge it if they don't
[Marie] i'm sure i've seen a reference
[Marie] but maybe i made that up
[Horas] Born in Flame is pretty good
[Marie] i got meraxes' scales the wrong colour i was 100% sure she was red
[Marie] but the book says silver
[Horas] I like the idea of those that are left being this broken down, war-battered survivors, who build things up again and take on new blood
[Marie] yeah
[Marie] er guys
[Marie] are any of you logging the chat
[Smith] Yeah... that makes sense. And really works for what we want to do. Just need more variety.
[Horas] I'll post what we got for posterity
[Horas] That's why I was wondering about what other nations there were then
[Horas] Cause it seems like Valyria just being a massive sprawling thing with no one else competing
[Marie] thank you, Horas. i know zack and sam at least will have comments and no doubt some others too
[Marie] hmm
[Marie] hang on i will go back and check
[Marie] right now i am reading about winterfell
[Smith] Is Winterfell still the north Capital.
[Marie] ok so valyria destroyed Old Ghis
[Marie] yes!
[Smith] I thought maybe we got that wrong too.
[Marie]
[Marie] but ok
[Marie] book says slaver's bay was under valyrian control until the doom
[Horas] Ok
[Marie] so we'd have a bunch of cities breaking free of valyrian control
[Horas] so everything's pretty much Valyrian nationally, but they'd be culturally/ethnically distinct
[Marie] hmm
[Smith] Yeah... which gives tons of things to do
[Smith] How did the Valyrians deal with the Dothraki?
[Horas] And I assume everyone is at war with everyone in the chaos
[Smith] Just feed them to Dragons? [Smith] Yeah except Braavos.
[Horas] Yeah Braavos would be free
[Horas] I assume Dothraki too
[Marie] ah it says that the remnants of the ghiscari culture took over slaver's bay
[Horas] And anything east of Dothraki, like Qarth, etc
[Marie] not sure if i am reading it right but it sounds like they build astapor too
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 30, 2014 19:29:06 GMT -5
I actually remember in the Doom section they describe a Valyrian general in Volantis that tries to reform the empire right after the doom. Conquered 3 cities before I think a few if the cities banded together and shattered his army. We could be the remnants of that force possibly.
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 30, 2014 19:33:36 GMT -5
That rings a bell. Perhaps the general had relations who survived the incident and founded the company.
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Post by Horas on Oct 30, 2014 19:42:11 GMT -5
[Marie] i am lookingat the beginning part
[Marie] that deals with valyria
[Marie] so i need to check the end
[Marie] that is more about other places
[Smith] It sounds like a good place to set the game.
[Horas] Yeah
[Horas] And I mean, we don't have to cleave 100% to the history
[Marie] ok well yeah some free cities founded by religious schisms in valyria, some trading colonies, others as i said existed before the valyrians came
[Horas] we can make up our own wars
[Marie] of course
[Marie] to be honest
[Marie] that would probably be likely
[Horas] Yeah
[Marie] the further we delve, the more chance of deviation from history
[Jon] .
[Horas] Right
[Horas] Haha, got any contributions, Jon?
[Jon] Just came back... Was preventing myself from being kicked.
[Jon] I'll read everything and see if I have something
[Horas] ahh, gotcha
[Jon] Hmmm all fine... Was going to start reading about the Dothraki now, so I'll check and come back in a few minutes with the answer
[Marie] i had a sneak peak ahead but i am already getting derailed by looking at random things so i am trying to focus on reading in order
[Marie] zack made a good suggestion
[Jon] City of Sarnath... More Lovecraft...
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[Horas] Hmm
[Marie] george loves his homasges
[Marie] homages
[Jon] Well
[Marie] there is so much stuff in the book i think it makes sense to start with one of the more familiar locations and branch out
[Horas] That could work, but woulnd't it put us in a position where we'd be trying to reform Valyria?
[Horas] I don't know if that should really be our goal
[Smith] Yeah... probably better to have that out there as a possible thread
[Jon] Apperantely, in the Grasslands during the AGe of Valyria there was the Kingdom of Sarnor
[Smith] I think it better to be a seperate General... who gives up on the old way.
[Marie] hmm
[Jon] So I guess there were no Dothraki yet
[Jon] will continue reading
[Marie] could always have the dream of going "home" like the Golden Company
[Marie] like resettling the ruins of Valyria or something
[Marie] or taking over volantis, i dont know
[Horas] Ehhh
[Horas] I don't really like that, because it sets up one big overall objective
[Marie] well i didnt meant as a main quest
[Horas] Part of the fun of being mercenaries is you aren't tied down to a specific cause
[Marie] but a sort of "one day we'll do it" even though they know they won't live to see it
[Smith] I prefer if the goal is just to survive and build a Mercenary group.
[Horas] You just fight for coin and your brothers (and sisters) around you
[Marie] yeah thats fair
[Jon] Spoilers ahead
[Jon] Does anyone mind?
[Horas] Ehh
[Horas] go ahead
[Marie] may as well
[Jon] That usage is comparatively recent, however, for the Dothraki are a young race, and it was only since the Doom destroyed Valyria that their khalasars came to dominate these lands
[Marie] oh wow
[Marie] that's odd
[Jon] The fall of the great Sarnori kingdoms took less than a century. Even as the Free Cities of the west became locked in a savage struggle for domination during what became known as the Century of Blood, the grasslands, too, exploded into war.
[Jon] During the years that followed the Doom, the riders of the eastern steppes, hitherto divided into threescore quarrelsome tribes at perpetual war with one another, had finally been united under a single leader, a Dothraki khal called Mengo.
[Smith] Century of bLood
[Smith] Brilliant time to be a Merc.
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Post by guesto on Oct 30, 2014 21:14:41 GMT -5
so this game would be starting in a month or so?
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 30, 2014 21:42:56 GMT -5
1. We have no idea yet.
2. Who be you?
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Post by Horas on Oct 30, 2014 22:21:02 GMT -5
[Jon] I'd be proud on killing a self made Emperor douche and his dragon
[Jon] So it could work out
[Zack] either way, zero political motivation to rebuild valyria
[Zack] let me see what else is in here
[Zack] there was a giant war aftert that
[Smith] Yeah... I think they can work... but we would have to decide what happened to the Last Dragon Dude
[Zack] volantis took lys and myr
[Marie] his dragon went mental when valyria was destroyed and ate him
[Zack] then tyrosh and pentos stopped them
[Erik] Then killed most of the company
[Smith] I like it better if we murdered the fucker.
[Zack] i do as well
[Horas] Yeah same
[Zack] douche was calling himself and emperor and wanted us to march into an apocalypse
[Marie] i dont care either way
[Zack] its a fitting end
[Horas] actually
[Marie] but i am in favour of the phoenix banner
[Zack] sigil could be a dragon skull
[Zack] we could carry it around as a war banner
[Horas] If we carried around his dragon's skull as a banner, that would be cool
[Zack] haha great minds Horas
[Horas] haha
[Zack] well the phoenix doesnt really make sense if we have no desire to rebirth valyria
[Zack] depends on how you look at it i guess
[Smith] THough we still need to decide what happened to the other 30000 men
[Horas] Well it would be emblematic of the company itself being reborn from the ashes
[Jon] So... We killed a Valyrian dude and his dragon... We could be
[Zack] the dragon skull carried around in the same way the golden company carries around the captains skulls is pretty cool
[Horas] Used to be a legion, broken, reborn.
[Jon] The DOOM
[Marie] yeah that was the reason behind the phoenix
[Smith] A pheonix clutching a dragonskull
[Zack] thatd be cool
[Horas] That is a metal as fuck sigil, Smith
[Smith] We can be fucking Metal
[Zack] either a lot of folks died killing the dragon
[Zack] or like a broken khalasar, most of it scattered to the wind
[Horas] It could be cool if it broke into many separate bands, with different goals
[Zack] returned to their families
[Horas] that way we have built in rivals and friends among other companies
[Zack] thats a cool idea
[Marie] ah yeah they could have formed different companies, some died off or tried to colonise places, and our band was just one of them
[Zack] the different officers broke off and formed their own companies
[Horas] Some actually do want to restore Valyria, some go back to protect Qohor
[Horas] etc.
[Marie] maybe some became pirates
[Zack] yeah im sure one group actually liked him
[Zack] could be one of our rivals. the emperor's children or some shit
[Smith] The Emperor's bitches you mean.
[Zack] boom
[Marie] led by his lover maybe
[Zack] but yeah theres a huge war right after that guy vanishes
[Zack] volantis takes lys and myr in an attempt to reforge valyria
[Zack] then gets stopped by pentos and tyrosh
[Zack] we could get hired by one of them
[Erik] The Emperor's Bitches can be another company
[Zack] then myr and lys rebel
[Zack] then the sealord provided a fleet of 100 to lys
[Smith] Sealord, what what!!!!!
Smith begins a slow clap for Braavos
[Zack] abd argilac the arrogant of the stormlands leads a host into the disputed lands and defeated a volantene host trying to retake myr
[Zack] so westeros was involed slightly
[Zack] then qohor and norvos destroy the volantene flee with fire galleys
[Zack] and then the dothraki attack volantis too
[Jon] Fire Galleys = Greek Fire?
[Zack] and thats the end of that conflict because the elephants take over
[Erik] And Ironborn are pirating all over, throughout
[Zack] and force peace
[Zack] yeah thats an incredibly aweseome time for mercs
[Smith] Then begins the time of BRAAAAAVOSSS
[Horas] What are the odds Erik makes an Ironborn merc?
[Horas] I'm saying 2:1
[Zack] haha im going ashaii
[Marie] Horas are you still saving this stuff>
[Zack] so we'll have a crazy mix already
[Horas] Well
[Horas] Not so much, but it's a copy and paste away
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[Zack] yeah we need a lot first
[Marie] but it would be a good way to hold the info
[Zack] like a name
[Jon] We have our origins, our banner, our troop strenght... What's next?
[Erik] Just move things around on Dragons.
[Zack] we have a thread in dragons for that at the moment
[Horas] We have this board to hold the info
[Marie] oh i know
[Marie] but still
[Erik] Everybody already has an account
[Horas] It's not like anything else is going on using up the space
[Zack] i guess we could use the dragons site but its still called dragons of westeros
[Erik] Eh
[Zack] but doesnt bother me if it doesnt bother you guys
[Erik] Close enough
[Marie] yeah and then we'd have to move stuff around again
[Smith] We can use where ever.
[Marie] i'd honestly rather it was separate
[Marie] also
[Zack] also would keep folks from having to make new accounts for the billionth time
[Erik] So many accounts.
[Marie] there would be an issue with admin permissions and stuff
[Marie] as most people would be needing it
[Marie] that or we made a generic account for whoever was adminning
[Horas] It's not a big deal to make a new board
[Horas] but it's not something that we should do until we got shit in order
[Zack] its not
[Zack] agreed
[Marie] haha see i am the other way round
[Marie] i make the board first and fill in as i go
[Erik] Do we have a starting admin?
[Zack] plus we always lose a few folks when we move a community from one site to the other
[Horas] We don't even have a name for the game yet, what would the board be called?
[Zack] think smith volunteered to go first
[Horas] Indeed
[Erik] Mercenaries of Essos, clearly
[Marie] haha more like everyone else said "i dont want to go first"
[Smith] I can go first
[Smith] PLus I am beloved by all... so you know thats a thing.
[Zack] haha smith is the only one that was open to it
[Zack] thats volunteering
[Zack] and its smith, so we know we'll be starting on a strong note
[Horas] Haha, clearly, Erik
[Smith] Yeah... and here starts the sucking up
[Zack] oh shutup. that was genuine
[Zack] all the folks of similar skill to you already said they wouldnt go first
[Zack] except stranger, who is mia
[Erik] He does that
[Marie] yeah
[Zack] dont let it go to your head big man
[Marie] i sent the message so we can but hope
[Smith] Stranger and I have a monthly phone call... I can bring it up on the next call
[Marie] haha wait stranger gave his number to someone?
[Zack] i cant tell if hes kidding or not
[Marie] nor me
[Horas] He is
[Smith] Come on... you can't stop true love.
[Horas] They really meet in a secret volcano lair.
[Zack]
[Marie] thought it was a dungeon
[Erik] They have a private game on the deep web that they take turns adminning
[Marie] by themselves?
[Smith] Anyway... can we pretend I did not bring up our phone calls... he gets really uncomfortable with other people knowing.
[Erik] Yep
[Erik] Sometimes Stranger's brother gets in on it
[Smith] And Rolland
[Zack] now im just assuming its admin phone sex
[Marie] who is rolland
[Horas] Roland*
[Marie] oh
[Smith] Stranger's other RL friend.
[Horas] Stranger's bro
[Marie] hmm its a shame stranger's brother got swamped by real life
[Marie] he was a good rper
[Zack] Smith: "you're the best admin ever. your ideas are so unique and characters so well developed."
[Zack] Stranger: "god you're getting me so hot baby."
[Smith] Roland is no the bro... thats Alex Irwyn
[Marie] stranger's bro was trant
[Marie] and my ally on the rome game
[Horas] Bro is slang for friend, Horas recovered
[Marie] and i dont know who else
[Smith] Come on... stranger doesn't get hard until some one gets dead.
[Marie] haha and also zack, the stranger comment is more suited to smith
[Zack]
[Zack] yeah the flip of the gambler's dreaded coin failed be that time
[Zack] its actually morbidly amusing to pull that silver dollar out of my wallet now and know how many online deaths it was responsible for
[Horas] there's an actual coin?
[Zack] yeah you dont remember?
[Marie] do you sit in your office and flip to decide if your colleagues live or die?
[Zack] 1885 silver dollar. 100 years before i was born. lucky coin. i used it for all the coin flips in dragons
[Zack] and yes, i felt like two-face and it was awesome
[Marie] haha when i had to, i just used the one on random.org
[Zack] thats less fun
[Marie] cos otherwise i had to go fish a coin out my purse
[Zack] i like using real coins and real dice
[Marie] and then i found an old coin and lost it
[Zack] gives it more meaning
[Marie] i had a bunch of six sided dice at one time, lost them all
[Zack] though the dreaded random number generator grew on me
[Smith] My friend lives at 222 second st apartment 2.
[Marie] that is weird
[Smith] WHenever I go over to her place I start looking out for twoface
[Zack]
[Zack] alright so we want to nail anything else down tonight?
[Marie] name?
[Zack] hmmm
[Zack] phoenix sons?
[Zack] have no idea
[Zack] never been good wiht names
[Jon] We still lack name and motto, at least.
[Marie] we suggestd the Phoenix company
[Marie] and what was that motto i suggested>
[Marie] Born in Flame?
[Marie] i think
[Jon] Rising from the Ashes?
[Horas] I like some variation on the The Burned
[Horas] The Burned Company
[Horas] Ashes of something
[Smith] I like the Burnt something
[Jon] Company of Ashes
[Marie] From ash to flame>
[Smith] Its has to be a bit manly
[Jon] We have a metal as fuck banner, we need a metal as fuck name
Marie looks blank
[Horas] I like the Company of Ashes too
[Smith] We can put up a thread just for names.
[Erik] The Drakeskull Company
[Jon] The Emperor's Bane
[Horas] We can, but we should have some options for a poll
[Marie] for the motto how about, Burned to ash, reborn in glory
[Jon] Altough Emperorbane could be a better name for a VS
[Horas] Ooh, I like that Marie
[Marie] yay
[Jon] Upvote for Marie too
[Marie] a mercenary company should be boastful
[Marie] though i feel a fraud for saying it
[Marie] irl i am always the one downplaying things
[Horas] Definitely my favorite words suggestion so far, especially if ashes is in our name somewhere as well
[Jon] The Ashen Band
[Horas] I also like that one
[Marie] The Ashen Legion?
[Marie] Legion of AShes?
[Jon] Legion is a more impacting word, I like it
[Horas] Band sounds more merc-ish though
[Zack] sorry im abck
[Zack] lets see
[Zack] emperor's bane would be an awesome vs sword name
[Zack] for the company heirloom sword
[Zack] see a lot of traditions coming from that
[Zack] the captain being the one that actually struck the killing blow on the emperor
[Zack] so thats why he was chosen to lead
[Zack] and then the sword the slew the emperor being passed down
[Horas] that would be cool
[Jon] Awesome
[Smith] Burnt Offerings
[Marie] The Burned Legion? or is tha too obvious
[Zack] i like the ashen band so far
[Erik] All right, I'm going to bed
[Zack] and im not sure about burned. idea is that we survived the burning. killed a dragon haha
[Erik] Night all
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[Zack] we are sans burns
[Marie] see you
[Marie] ah
[Marie] or something about fire and flame and stuff
[Marie] but i need to go too
[Marie] should have gone long since
[Marie] talk later
[Horas] Well, it could be the dragon burned the shit out of us before we killed it
[Marie] let me know what's suggested
[Horas] That's what dragons tend to do
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[Horas] And burned implies we survived it
[Jon] I guessed that's why we were ashes
[Smith] I like Burnt or Burned something
[Jon] Most of us burned, but we managed to revive in glory
[Zack] hmm
[Jon] Is someone taking notes?
[Smith] Horas is saving and posting
[Jon] Good
[Zack] mmk
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Post by Nyessos Qhaedar on Oct 30, 2014 22:30:15 GMT -5
Name: The Burned Legion / Legion of Ashes / Burnt Offerings / The Ashen Band / Company of Ashes / The Burned Company / Drakeskull Company / Phoenix Sons
Motto: Burned to ash, reborn in glory (Agreed on)
Origins: After the Doom, one of the few surviving dragon lords of Valyria, Aurion, proclaimed himself Emperor and marched south with a newly raised army to make it fact. But his new legion was built from levies and sellswords from across the Freehold and beyond, and not all shared his vision. Many turned on him, killing him and his dragon -- the survivors became the player's mercenary company. Aurion's failed bid for emperor is discussed on page 26 of World of Ice and Fire (Agreed on)
Size: 500 men (Agreed on)
Banner: Phoenix cluthing on Dragon Skull (Agreed on)
VS: Emperor's Bane (Agreed on)
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Post by Morys Martell on Oct 31, 2014 0:30:10 GMT -5
I was gonna suggest something like this for our banner, only more dragony. i43.tinypic.com/141m8i8.pngbut I like the phoenix idea to. Maybe something like Red and White, or maybe even Blue and Silver.
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 31, 2014 5:35:41 GMT -5
A phoenix is typically red and we know that dragon skulls are black due to the high iron content in the bone so we need a colour that stands out for the background. Maybe very pale grey for the ashes.
Is anyone able to draw this for us?
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Post by Lord Lyonel Harroway on Oct 31, 2014 7:04:10 GMT -5
You know we spent all our time last night talking about setting and forgot to forge some rules.
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 31, 2014 7:08:03 GMT -5
Well the setting has to come first, I think as it may impact upon the rules. There was talk of modifying the Green Ronin rules before the chat discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 18:01:03 GMT -5
Ooh, I like the idea of a vaguely democratic structure to the company. Like the Night's Watch, or a pirate crew. The Captain's in charge, but if/when he gets knocked off there could be some cool maneuvering for who (probably a PC) will be the next one. And having an era jump after a campaign would end with people having to make new characters constantly -- best to treat it more like a planned-for time jump, in that if we collectively get bored or run out of story ideas we can launch forward fresh. Not sure I care for the dead horse sigil. If only because I can already imagine all the bad jokes about something being beaten like a dead horse. That all sounds sensible. Would taking a turn at adminning be an absolute requirement to be allowed to play?
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Post by Erik on Oct 31, 2014 18:03:48 GMT -5
Doubt it.
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 31, 2014 18:08:22 GMT -5
Would taking a turn at adminning be an absolute requirement to be allowed to play? We would cut out a portion of the player base if that were so, so it would be counter productive.
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 31, 2014 18:19:03 GMT -5
I assumed most folks that have adminned before (or expressed an interest in doing so) would enjoy coming up with a contract on occasion and running it. It is by no means a requirement.
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Post by Erik on Oct 31, 2014 18:23:47 GMT -5
Otherwise there'd probably be some "GOD DAMN IT HORAS IT IS YOUR FUCKING TURN, NOW MAKE A FUCKING ADVENTURE FOR US!", and nobody wants that.
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 31, 2014 18:28:27 GMT -5
With that in mind, I am going to make a list of the people who have specified that they would be happy to take a turn at the admin role. If you would like to be included in the list, please comment in the thread to that effect and I will add you. Of course anyone can jump in or drop out of the list as needed but I think it's good to know how many people are willing to run a campaign.
Smith (will be going 1st) Jon Marie Horas Zack Erik Sam Drakonic Felix
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