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Post by The Gambler on Jul 4, 2014 13:53:14 GMT -5
They do call it Jesus' birthday though...let's not even get started on that can of worms.
Happy Independence Day my American brothers and sisters. To the rest of you...hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by Vhagar on Jul 4, 2014 13:56:25 GMT -5
I was kind of seeing it as Rhaena being the patroness of the festival. I can change the title of the thread if need be though.
Happy Independence Day to the Americans. Happy normal Friday to everyone else.
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Post by The Gambler on Jul 4, 2014 13:59:24 GMT -5
The rest of the world should just call It Underdog Day and celebrate by picking a fight with someone twice their size.
Also, at what age did you folks start reading game of thrones? I'm trying to decide the appropriate age to buy it for my niece.
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Post by Vhagar on Jul 4, 2014 14:04:58 GMT -5
15 ACOK was actually published shortly after I read AGOT. Ah 1998, it was a more innocent time... You just need to be sure she is mature enough really. I was reading adult fantasy from around 12/13 and I was definitely not emotionally mature or socially aware enough for some (most) of the adult content back then. If you're not sure, maybe start her off with Dunk and Egg.
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Post by The Gambler on Jul 4, 2014 14:07:02 GMT -5
I feel like if you started with Dunk and Egg you'd have no idea what the hell is going on. It assumes you know the world.
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Post by Vhagar on Jul 4, 2014 14:12:59 GMT -5
Probably, just thinking that if you're not sure whether your niece should be reading the adult content yet then Dunk and Egg doesn't really have any so you'd be safe with that. Seems to me that the adult content is the main reason for any possible hesitation, unless you think she can't handle some of the violence, i.e. the flaying in ADWD.
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Post by Morys Martell on Jul 4, 2014 14:17:06 GMT -5
Starting reading them at 21, after GOT the tv series started.
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Post by Queen Rhaena Targaryen on Jul 4, 2014 15:11:43 GMT -5
Yeah, but Jesus is the person it's celebrating... It's not celebrating Rhaena,
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Jul 4, 2014 16:15:22 GMT -5
Started reading them at 14, and I turned out just fine.
Now come help me get my character brutally slaughtered in some way that involves giants and their giant parts, Zack.
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Post by Vhagar on Jul 4, 2014 16:20:09 GMT -5
Haha oh that would be so much fun. If you want we can fastforward through the scouts and move you on a bit!
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Jul 4, 2014 17:08:41 GMT -5
Zack, Maekar, this is for you two. EDIT: And Horas, if he's still alive.
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Post by Varryn Targaryen on Jul 4, 2014 17:11:13 GMT -5
Haha oh that would be so much fun. If you want we can fastforward through the scouts and move you on a bit! Up to y'all but I'm actually hoping to learn something courtesy of the scouts, so I know where to head for a potential dragon hunt other that 'frostfangs' or wherever
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Post by Vhagar on Jul 4, 2014 17:17:21 GMT -5
Yeah that's fine. I meant skip forward to when they come back
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Post by Vhagar on Jul 4, 2014 17:47:16 GMT -5
Woohoo! Going to Bath! Not for another 2 weeks though. Haven't had a true holiday in a while so it will be fun to do all the geeky historical stuff
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Post by Alexys Darkfyre on Jul 5, 2014 4:36:57 GMT -5
I started reading them at 13 in a second language. Not sure why I never received a medal.
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Post by The Black Dread on Jul 5, 2014 6:11:21 GMT -5
BATTLE FOR DORNE as it described in “The World of Ice and Fire”:
While marching through the Red Mountain Targaryen host was trapped in the Boneway, a major pass that runs through the Red Mountains, connecting Dorne and the Stormlands. At first the defenders shot arrows and threw spears from the heights, murdered men in the night, and in the end blocked the Boneway both before and behind. “Lord Orys Baratheon was captured by Lord Wyl, and many of his bannermen and knights besides. They remained captive for years before finally being ransomed for their weight in gold in 7 AC. And even then, each and every one of them returned lacking a sword hand, so that they might never take up arms against Dorne again.
“Still, save for the assault in the Boneway, the Dornish simply yielded up their seats, the lords refusing to defend them or bend the knee. The same was the case when the Targaryens at last came to Sunspear, where Princess Mariya (mocked by her foes as the Yellow Toad of Dorne but to this day a hero to the Dornish) had herself vanished into the sands. There Queen Rhaenys and King Aegon gathered what courtiers and functionaries remained and declared themselves the victors, placing Dorne under the rule of the Iron Throne. Leaving Lord Rosby to hold Sunspear and Lord Tyrell in charge of a host to put down any revolts, the Targaryens returned to King’s Landing on the backs of their dragons. Yet they had hardly set foot in the royal city than Dorne rebelled against them and did so with shocking rapidity. Garrisons were put to the sword, and the knights who led them were tortured. In truth, it became a bit of a game among the Dornish lords, to see which knight would live the longest as bit after bit of him was removed.
FROM THE HISTORY OF ARCHMAESTER GYLDAYN, ON THE DEFENESTRATION OF SUNSPEAR: Lord Rosby, Castellan of Sunspear and Warden of the Sands, had a kinder end than most. After the Dornishmen swarmed in from the shadow city to retake the castle, he was bound hand and foot, dragged to the top of the Spear Tower, and thrown from a window by none other than the aged Princess Mariya herself.
“Setting out with his garrison at Hellholt to conquer Vaith and retake Sunspear, Lord Harlan Tyrell and his entire army vanished in the sands, never to be heard from again. The reports of travelers in the area claim that occasionally the winds shift the sands to reveal bones and pieces of armor, but the sandy Dornishmen who wander the deep desert say that the sands are the burial grounds of thousands of years of battles, and the bones might be from any time.
“The war against the Dornish entered a different phase after the release of Orys One-hand and the other handless lords, for King Aegon was by that time intent on revenge. The Targaryens unleashed their dragons, burning the defiant castles again and again. In return, the Dornish responded with fire of their own, sending a force to Cape Wrath in 8 AC that left half the rainwood ablaze and sacked half a dozen towns and villages. Matters escalated, and more Dornish seats fell to dragonfire in 9 AC. The Dornish responded a year later by sending a host under Lord Fowler that seized and burned the great marcher castle of Nightsong and carried off its lords and defenders as hostages, whilst another army under Ser Joffrey Dayne marched to the very walls of Oldtown, razing the fields and villages outside it.
”So again the Targaryens turned to their dragons, unleashing their fury upon Starfall and Skyreach and Hellholt. It was at Hellholt where the Dornish had their greatest success against the Targaryens. A bolt from a scorpion pierced the eye of Meraxes, and the great dragon and the queen who rode upon it fell from the sky. In her death throes, the dragon destroyed the castle’s highest tower and part of the curtain wall. Queen Rhaenys’s body was never returned to King’s Landing.”
FROM THE HISTORY OF ARCHMAESTER GYLDAYN: “Whether Rhaenys Targaryen outlived her dragon remains a matter of dispute. Some say that she lost her seat and fell to her death, others that she was crushed beneath Meraxes in the castle yard. A few accounts claim the queen survived her dragon’s fall, only to die a slow death by torment in the dungeons of the Ullers. The true circumstances of her demise will likely never be known, but Rhaenys Targaryen, sister and wife to King Aegon I, perished at the Hellholt in Dorne in the tenth year After the Conquest.”
Text and Image from “The World of Ice and Fire” (to be out in October 2014)
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Post by Morys Martell on Jul 5, 2014 11:06:03 GMT -5
Jesus. Rule number 2 of GOT, don't fuck with drone.
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Post by The Gambler on Jul 5, 2014 11:59:38 GMT -5
I do love how similar Meraxes' death is to our setting. We did pretty well. Awesome find, Sam.
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Post by The Black Dread on Jul 5, 2014 13:38:57 GMT -5
Well technically this should be canon for us, since it occurred before our timeline split with the death of Aenys II, but I think we did pretty good.
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Post by The Gambler on Jul 5, 2014 14:33:20 GMT -5
Well I think everything is canon for us, except the Meraxes death. Though that was on Maekar
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Post by Morys Martell on Jul 5, 2014 15:20:38 GMT -5
I'm surprised they didn't use the dragons body for anything. Maybe make outward battery decorations for the walls of sunspear. Maybe a stylish chair from its bones.
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Post by The Gambler on Jul 5, 2014 15:23:43 GMT -5
Well the Ullers of Hellholt killed the thing and we haven't seen their castle yet. I really hope they have something from Meraxes. Haha or at least the scorpion bolt framed and on the wall.
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Post by Vhagar on Jul 5, 2014 15:34:35 GMT -5
Well, if we ever see the Hellholt in the novels it will be 300 years ago. They might be less obsessed with these details than we are
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Jul 5, 2014 23:11:15 GMT -5
New Fan Theory:
Rhaenys survived the fall and (willingly or not) gave birth to several Ullers, leading to 'half being mad, the other half even worse'.
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Post by The Gambler on Jul 6, 2014 15:24:58 GMT -5
Well, if we ever see the Hellholt in the novels it will be 300 years ago. They might be less obsessed with these details than we are Considering the crazy deeds houses in the books obsess over, you don't think killing a damn dragon trumps them all?
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