OOC board

Remember what I said about the private boards? A lot of that stuff is going to have to go and one or two other things as well, by the looks of it.

I can handle the private stuff but if anyone can think of anything else that is a bit dodgy in the public forums please bring it to my attention so I can fix it.


Thanks

Yeah. Thought they'd stopped worrying about such matters but I guess not. So we'll need to tone it down and those who are interested in such things will need to make alternative arrangements outside of the forum.

The reason I went for it is that if Arenya is to join them, she should try her mettle against the existing brothers in order to be seen as a worthy addition to their ranks. Is that such a bad idea?

I think the problem with the trial of seven is that there is the potential for death as the rules state that both Dunk and Aerion must be killed or Aerion withdraw his accusations, else all seven combatants on one side must be killed. So Baelor knows the Kingsguard knights have to avoid him for that reason yet we see at least one of the Humphreys is killed in the combat, which reinforces the message of it being deadly.

This is clearly not anywhere near what Snow intends. Thing is, fighting is dangerous even if death is not intended. I know we see the dangerous opponents avoiding Prince Valarr in the joust which takes place in the Hedge Knight but we're told about Ser Arlan jousting with Baelor Breakspear, Rhaegar at Harrenhal and I believe the Prince of Dragonflies is listed as a tourney opponent of one of the Kingsguard in the White Book. As we learn from both the Hedge Knight and the novels, there is a lot of potential for serious injury (Humphrey Hardying via Aerion) and death (Hugh of the Vale via Gregor) in tourneys and those are just the ones where the incidents are deliberate. I genuinely don't believe every single tourney which featured a royal person resulted in that person winning because everyone was too scared to hurt them.

To be honest, the other reason was that the Kingsguard are the ideal candidates in terms of pre-created NPCs as they have a high enough skill to present a genuine challenge. Using one or two of them also lessens the number of random people I have to invent!

I'm going to let Stranger decide if Ser Jon's challenge to Arenya is appropriate or not, seeing as he's Lord Commander.

I get that and obviously he wouldn't be fighting her in normal circumstances but as this is her trying out for the Kingsguard, I don't think normal rules need apply. There's also various aspects of Ser Jon's personality that would prompt him to do it unless specifically told no by Snow or the king. But let's see what Stranger thinks. This is "his" thing so he should have final say.

I will try to throw some other NPCs at her later as well, as she's got 48 hours.

Yeah, most of those were my reasons too. Seems to me that the King believes his relatives can look after themselves, and that they aren't worth worrying about if they can't. The only person I think who has even a potential claim to dispute Maaegor's use of the Kingsguard is Rhaella since they are meant to be co-rulers even though he is the official monarch as per Andal custom. To be honest if she wants an equivalent she'll just make her own Queensguard!

It's clear that the king has the right to dispose of the Kingsguard as he sees fit. If I remember rightly GRRM says that some kings used them to guard immediate family, some used them as generals, some used them as an elite bodyguard for himself alone. That last option is closer to Maegor's current attitude.

Please, I'll let you know Ser Jon's weapon skill via pm.

On it

Maybe we should make Elseyris a Kingsguard instead.

See how long that would keep Rhaella alive.

Prediction: Not long.

If you have to rein in my sadism, I have to do the same to your feminist notions

Considering all our players are still alive...

Hey, I've already called her for my war-bodyguard.