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Post by Lady Visenya Targaryen on Oct 29, 2014 12:31:33 GMT -5
This Just In: Zack continues to be The Worst Ever.
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 29, 2014 13:22:47 GMT -5
Infamy is superior to obscurity.
On the plus side, now for future games at least we know it's perfectly acceptable to hit a disobedient wife 6 times. Really we let her off easy Sam. Remember that time I ordered her out of a room and she refused so one of her dogs ended up killing a guard and the dogs in turn were butchered? Legally, I was well within my rights to get a thumb sized stick and hit her 6 times with it.
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 29, 2014 14:25:40 GMT -5
Haha I'd take a look at the stuff above, as it directly relates to you.
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Post by Nyessos Qhaedar on Oct 29, 2014 16:26:01 GMT -5
Got the digital version and gave a quick look through some of my favorite topics... I just have one thing to say: OH MY GOD, THERE'S SO MUCH ABOUT IB! I LOVE THIS BOOK. Edit: Well... Ib... is a bit of a depressive place.  |
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 29, 2014 16:39:52 GMT -5
I'm supposed to be doing interview prep but so far I have: -Looked at all the pictures -Looked at the genealogies -Read the section about Garth Greenhands and his kids -Read the section about Aegon IV and his mistresses -Read a few snippets from other sections in the middle of the book -Read from the beginning up to end of the Conquest section There is so much cool stuff already. I am particularly interested in the Gardeners and Valyria in a RP setting. Also, Meraxes is silver, not red. My bad. I am trying to find a description of Vhagar but no luck yet. I like that we finally found out the name of Aegon V's wife. I am puzzled by a comment in ASOS that doesn't match the Stark genealogy. Cat says to Robb "Your father's father had no siblings, but his father had a sister who married a younger son of Lord Raymar Royce, of the junior branch." She then talks about the daughters of that marriage and their spouses. However, in the Stark genealogy, Lord Edwyle's sister Jocelyn is married to Benedict Rogers, a house I know nothing about. Curiously, Rickard's sister in-law is also married to a Rogers. The Wiki says this house is from the Stormlands. So did George just change his mind or is there a mistake on the genealogy? Somehow I thought we'd hear more about the Vale lords with Stark blood at some stage. Honestly I thought the rule of six was intended as a way to ensure the woman didn't die  Also, Rhaenys got to sit on the Iron Throne. Yay! But I read that section by chance and am not really "there" yet so I should keep reading. |
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 29, 2014 17:14:04 GMT -5
Some more stuff that I found interesting: -Visenya officiated at Aegon 1st coronation and also at Maegor's Vlayrian marriage to Alys Harroway as the Faith would not recognise the marriage while he was already married to Ceryse Hightower. Guess we were kind of right with our Valyrian customs  The concept of simultaneous spouses was allowed under Valyrian law and while Aegon and Maegor both did it, it appears not to be common. Yet the section on Aenar Targaryen said he fled with his wive s so it seems like that particular Valyrian did it too! |
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Post by Nyessos Qhaedar on Oct 29, 2014 17:50:47 GMT -5
Ooooh Yikes! Just discovered that a friend is going to the US tomorrow... Two shits I just bought the Ebook, I need the physical version, guess my girlfriend can wait another month to get her annivesary present.
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 29, 2014 18:59:52 GMT -5
The Asshai section just made me want to recreate Oriax of the Shadow in a future game. If anything I was playing him too tame, even with the prostitute eviceration fortune telling. I should have had him fornicating with demons apparently.
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Post by Lord Lyonel Harroway on Oct 29, 2014 21:05:57 GMT -5
What is up with Asshai? Do men lay down with snakes?
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Post by The Gambler on Oct 29, 2014 21:29:31 GMT -5
Alright just read the section on the Defiance of Duskendale. Selmy is officially the most badass man in Westerosi history.
They literally fornicate with demons, Smith.
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 30, 2014 3:17:03 GMT -5
But are they super hot succubi and incubi? I didn't get there yet. Boo, I don't get to continue reading for another 10 hours
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Post by Erik on Oct 30, 2014 6:44:47 GMT -5
Started with the Ironborn section last night. Can't see any major issues with how I've been portraying them, but how in the hell did I not come up with calling the sons of salt wives "salt sons"? It seems so obvious.
Found the old setup they had of a rock king and a salt king on every island very interesting. Pretty disappointed by the map, though, when they start the section talking about how there's something like 31 islands in the main chain and a bunch more out by Lonely Light, and then on the map we get barely more detail than we've had before.
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Oct 30, 2014 7:09:43 GMT -5
I'm just happy to now know what the hell the Doom of Valyria IS. It's one of those things everybody IC knows about, but never feels the need to discuss.
He leaves the actual reasons vague, but I'm glad we can at least picture and understand it.
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Post by Lord Lyonel Harroway on Oct 30, 2014 9:27:02 GMT -5
It was those tricky faceless men.
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 30, 2014 12:03:34 GMT -5
I'm excited about the Ironborn section but I did notice there is no mention of my beloved Harlaws in the appendices (that I saw). Does that mean they aren't mentioned at all?
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Post by Prince Orys Targaryen on Oct 30, 2014 12:46:54 GMT -5
I'm excited about the Ironborn section but I did notice there is no mention of my beloved Harlaws in the appendices (that I saw). Does that mean they aren't mentioned at all? Ironborn section is very detailed, but they don't really mention the House of Harlaw too much, just the island itself. It's actually the most populous. |
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 30, 2014 13:19:57 GMT -5
I'm excited about the Ironborn section but I did notice there is no mention of my beloved Harlaws in the appendices (that I saw). Does that mean they aren't mentioned at all? Ironborn section is very detailed, but they don't really mention the House of Harlaw too much, just the island itself. It's actually the most populous. That's a shame. Harlaws are my fave Ironborn house. Oh well. |
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Post by Erik on Oct 30, 2014 13:23:09 GMT -5
So looks like the Ibbenese are Neanderthals, then?
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 30, 2014 13:29:00 GMT -5
I've noticed that there are a lot of deformed "dragonish" Targaryen babies. Until this book came out, it seemed like Rhaego and Rhaenyra's stillborn daughter Visenya were the only ones but Maegor had a few, Daemon and Laena had one too. I think I saw that someone else did too but I could be wrong? Is it coincidence, a curse upon 1 or both parents or linked in some way to the bond between Targaryens and dragons (i.e. a failure to birth an actual dragon in human form)?
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 30, 2014 14:51:48 GMT -5
I found a new VS blade. Lamentation, the blade of House Royce, was lost in the storming of the Dragonpit in 131AC. Anyone further ahead come across any more?
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Post by Nyessos Qhaedar on Oct 30, 2014 15:04:46 GMT -5
I've seen none, but from the Qohor section they say te Qohorik manage to do something at least half as good. Please someone correct me if I have misinterpreted.
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Post by The Black Dread on Oct 30, 2014 15:14:19 GMT -5
I've noticed that there are a lot of deformed "dragonish" Targaryen babies. Until this book came out, it seemed like Rhaego and Rhaenyra's stillborn daughter Visenya were the only ones but Maegor had a few, Daemon and Laena had one too. I think I saw that someone else did too but I could be wrong? Is it coincidence, a curse upon 1 or both parents or linked in some way to the bond between Targaryens and dragons (i.e. a failure to birth an actual dragon in human form)? It's not particularly surprising, after generations of incest. |
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Post by Vhagar on Oct 30, 2014 15:18:20 GMT -5
I've noticed that there are a lot of deformed "dragonish" Targaryen babies. Until this book came out, it seemed like Rhaego and Rhaenyra's stillborn daughter Visenya were the only ones but Maegor had a few, Daemon and Laena had one too. I think I saw that someone else did too but I could be wrong? Is it coincidence, a curse upon 1 or both parents or linked in some way to the bond between Targaryens and dragons (i.e. a failure to birth an actual dragon in human form)? It's not particularly surprising, after generations of incest. I can't claim to know much about the subject of children born through incest but some of the deformities are linked to dragons. Wings and tails are mentioned. Of course this could be a maesterly embellishment or else propaganda but it makes me think there is something more than incest to it. |
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Post by Nyessos Qhaedar on Oct 30, 2014 17:00:20 GMT -5
The number of Lovecraftian-like* civilizations/people/rites is amusing.
*References/analogies whatever you want to call it.
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Post by Lord Lyonel Harroway on Oct 30, 2014 18:13:42 GMT -5
God... the last thing we need is more VS for people to whine about owning.
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Also, Rhaenys got to sit on the Iron Throne. Yay! But I read that section by chance and am not really "there" yet so I should keep reading.
all alone and also really bored 
Hopefully going to kickstart the festival too
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